Warning on old butane cylinder stoves

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Ozzie
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Warning on old butane cylinder stoves

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https://expeditionaustralia.com.au/bann ... as-stoves/

I came across this old article while browsing the above forum. Given this hasn’t been a hot topic for 9 years but we have had a lot of Investigators change hands in that time I thought I’d mention it again. I’ve not seen the demonstration video with the crash test dummies before but it’s scary as all crepe. I had one of the banned stoves on the list which I disposed of and when the general design was modified and recertification given we bought a new “safe” one. We use it outside on the motorhome for bbq etc or cooking when we don’t want to heat up the van too much in hot weather.

In a nutshell the old design allowed oversized frypans or bbq plates to overshadow and overheat the cylinder and the results were potentially deadly. As per the video. If you have bought an investigator that came with a butane stove check the model against the list. It’s relatively easy to ID the crook ones. New ones have the cylinder compartment raised higher to discourage use of oversized cooking vessels.

Notice I have “safe” in inverted comas. It’s probably not the best idea to use any of these, no matter it’s certification inside a boat. At $1.50 or less each the cylinders are …well, what you would expect from $1.50. Item, I guess. I’d say that anyone from here or tsp would have got the warnings ok but you might have bought a 563 that had one that slipped through the cracks. Imagine that video inside an Investigator. We only used the old one in the cockpit but that would not save you. Went back to metho for the boat.

I read a report on a USA site that the larger disposable Coleman gas cylinders you can get here are being banned in some states as they are an environmental problem with thousands used weekly. Maybe the small ones we use here will suffer the same ban eventually .

Happy cooking 🤖Marvin the paranoid Android signing out.
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Re: Warning on old butane cylinder stoves

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Scary video of the old canisters/old stove exploding in 2015. , looks like the CVR cylinders are much safer if the stove is overheated.

Im going to try my newish butane canister stove (with raised cylinder holder) and RVR (rim vent release) safety canisters in the cockpit, mostly to fast boil 2L coleman water kettle. (Cook sits inside cabin with extinguisher) They are very convienient, clean and the cheapest gas to run. Nice hot blue flame (way faster than spirit burners)

Looked into all types of disposable canister stoves awhile back. The cost of butane is about 4x less than liquid propane or mixed gas types (eg the heavier "coleman" type mini-bottles, propane needs much higher pressure to liquify). Butane is liquid at much lower pressure, so the container is also much lighter weight and cheapest.

Still got spirit Trangia 25 to reheat / simmer/ slow boil stuff in cabin galley box.
Andrew

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